[TPIN] 20th century music Garbage/or enightened music of the future?

[gwrawlin]

Glenn when I was at Cass Tech Shell Oil provided  a composer in residence named Felciano. His music would be considered ugly at best by most, but being a part of the process of his writing and having him show us in great detail what and how he was creating art, I really enjoyed the process
I find that when I hear most contemporary music I give it a chance to speak. In a lot of cases it is mute to me but I admit I really enjoyed the " scientific" approach Felciano took to his art.
His was an exploration of texture and form and while it was definitely not harmonically or melodically oriented it no less created a deep emotion. The piece I remember most was his attempt to capture the holocost in time and space using unorthodox orchestrations. The sounds and emotions he created were ugly but beautiful as well!

>From time to time I hear such a piece and rather than say I enjoyed the music I say I was moved emotionally
And is that not one if the axioms of great music  perhaps in the future we will change the word music to Sounds and not be diarepectful to the genius' of Bach,  Mozart et al. 

I think it is important that musicians be free to convey pain as well as comfort, because without the dark we have no light or grey

I believe this is a furtherence of fact that I know there is God because there is evil....
Gr

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On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:10 AM, John Daniel <john.daniel at lawrence.edu> wrote:

It takes time for the cream to rise to the top.  If we pay attention to the music of our own generation and those immediately preceding, we can be part of the process of raising the cream to the top and thus influence the history of music.  Blowing off this responsibility as musicians and leaving it to public opinion is how great pieces get lost.
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From: tpin-bounces+john.daniel=lawrence.edu at tpin.okcu.edu [tpin-bounces+john.daniel=lawrence.edu at tpin.okcu.edu] On Behalf Of Glenn Bengry [soundpretty at hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:47 AM
To: my Cheri Amour; tpin at hunsicker.com; tpin at tpin.okcu.edu
Subject: [TPIN] 20th century music Garbage/or enightened music of the future?

Bille,



  thanks for acknowledging my style which is often tongue in cheek, blowhard, pot stirring, silliness with enough truth to be taken seriously but not enough to get upset about.  MOST so called 20th century compositions are garbage.  The same was partially true in every period.  The better material survives and even the some of the good stuff gets lost.  Some of the material Hakan has performed is outstanding stuff.  I have preference for music that has something to say and is not some random piles of suck.  Much of it is completely useless to me.  And if its really whacked patterns of suck   at least the composers could create enough commentary to help us learn to appreciate it in some deeper symbolic way.  If they don't, i suppose their music won't get played.




glenn, i don't dig random piles of suck much, bengry



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That's not what I said. You've quoted the post that I replied to (which
came from Glenn Bengry). Please pay more attention to the correctness of
your attributions.
2. I took Glenn's original statement to be intended as irony, based on the
way he signed his name (which you've left off). Thus my response (which
you
also omitted) was ended in a similar way. Please pay more attention to
relevant context.
3. Please pay more attention to the correctness of your attributions.
(With
apologies to Monty Python.)



haha - admonishment taken into consideration - considerate consideration...


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